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	<description>I&#039;m a writer. I&#039;m a teacher. Also, I&#039;m trying to read my way through the library.</description>
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		<title>Comment on The starting gun! by afpetty</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2012 13:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Crossing my fingers is a mere formality, as your proposal is dynamite, but I&#039;ll do it nonetheless.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crossing my fingers is a mere formality, as your proposal is dynamite, but I&#8217;ll do it nonetheless.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The starting gun! by afpetty</title>
		<link>http://philipchristman.com/2012/04/30/the-starting-gun/#comment-1285</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2012 13:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Crossing my fingers is a mere formality, since your proposal is dynamite, but I&#039;ll do it nonetheless.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crossing my fingers is a mere formality, since your proposal is dynamite, but I&#8217;ll do it nonetheless.</p>
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		<title>Comment on AG-AZ: I&#8217;m on E, I&#8217;m on E, I&#8217;m on E/Got Nothin&#8217; to Say by Christian</title>
		<link>http://philipchristman.com/2012/04/09/ag-az-im-on-e-im-on-e-im-on-egot-nothin-to-say/#comment-1279</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 12:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As I clicked the link to start reading this post, I thought to myself, “Oh I need to email Phil a reminder that he’d better be coming to FFW with a completed manuscript in hand.” There will be publishers there, you know. FINISH. IT.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I clicked the link to start reading this post, I thought to myself, “Oh I need to email Phil a reminder that he’d better be coming to FFW with a completed manuscript in hand.” There will be publishers there, you know. FINISH. IT.</p>
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		<title>Comment on On (Not) Reading Every Book in the Libray by AF-AG, Pt. I &#124; Philip Christman</title>
		<link>http://philipchristman.com/2012/01/31/on-not-reading-every-book-in-the-libray/#comment-1236</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AF-AG, Pt. I &#124; Philip Christman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2012 21:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] part of the library that I&#8217;m now reading through is wonder-stuffed with old compendia, almanacs, encyclopedias, books of trivia. Here are some [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] part of the library that I&#8217;m now reading through is wonder-stuffed with old compendia, almanacs, encyclopedias, books of trivia. Here are some [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on AC8 S6484 1969: Styles of Radical Will by Phil</title>
		<link>http://philipchristman.com/2012/02/19/ac8-s6484-1969-styles-of-radical-will/#comment-1215</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Phil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 02:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, yeah, that&#039;s why some of us delete our blogs every few years: humiliation management.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, yeah, that&#8217;s why some of us delete our blogs every few years: humiliation management.</p>
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		<title>Comment on AC8 S6484 1969: Styles of Radical Will by ali</title>
		<link>http://philipchristman.com/2012/02/19/ac8-s6484-1969-styles-of-radical-will/#comment-1214</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ali]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2012 22:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Didn&#039;t Sontag, once she can cancer herself, write an essay about how horrible it is to use cancer as a metaphor for other things? I don&#039;t remember that essay mentioning her own previous use of the metaphor. But then if anyone went looking for consistency from me, no doubt they would find that I would be justly served in having someone as graceless as I am being here sicced on me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t Sontag, once she can cancer herself, write an essay about how horrible it is to use cancer as a metaphor for other things? I don&#8217;t remember that essay mentioning her own previous use of the metaphor. But then if anyone went looking for consistency from me, no doubt they would find that I would be justly served in having someone as graceless as I am being here sicced on me.</p>
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		<title>Comment on AC8 I6 1909: The Works of Robert G. Ingersoll, Vols.I-XII by joel</title>
		<link>http://philipchristman.com/2012/02/08/ac8-i6-1909-the-works-of-robert-g-ingersoll-vols-i-xii/#comment-1201</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[joel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 07:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Again it&#039;s dangerous for me to defend people I don&#039;t know.  (You may well have had some boorish debating partners in the past). And I do agree that ignorant caricatures are bad. Although I guess what is considered an ignorant caricature might be open to debate.  In your original post, you gave some examples of ignorant caricatures--I can’t believe in a religion that says sex is bad/infidels must be killed/almost everybody goes to hell/etc.--and 2 out of the 3 actually struck me as not so much a caricature but my real experience of mainstream Christianity.  i understand the liberal episcopalian might be trying to duck out from under some of these, but surely the response should not be &quot;Clearly, you have no idea what the fuck you’re talking about&quot; but rather, &quot;Yes, those bastards piss me off just as much as they do you.

I do agree though that people should be curious about religion.  (I actually wish the Bible was taught more in public schools--partly because so much of our culture does come from it, and partly because I think if people actually read the old testament most of them would flock to become agnostics.)

So I take your point about the Sistine Chapel and Bach.

As for the sincerity of the work...
Chomsky at one point was being challenged by Andrew Marr, who took objection to Chomsky&#039;s view that the Media altered the truth.  Marr said to him something like, &quot;How do you know I&#039;m being I&#039;m being insincere.  For all you know, I could thoroughly believe everything I&#039;m telling you now.&quot;
Chomsky replied, &quot;I&#039;m sure you are sincere.  What I&#039;m saying is that if you believed anything different from what you do, you wouldn&#039;t be able to be in a high profile media position.&quot;
(I&#039;m paraphrasing as this is from memory, but you get the idea.)
I&#039;m sure Bach did really believe in his music.  But the reason Western tradition is so filled with religious music is that no one was paying for much else.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again it&#8217;s dangerous for me to defend people I don&#8217;t know.  (You may well have had some boorish debating partners in the past). And I do agree that ignorant caricatures are bad. Although I guess what is considered an ignorant caricature might be open to debate.  In your original post, you gave some examples of ignorant caricatures&#8211;I can’t believe in a religion that says sex is bad/infidels must be killed/almost everybody goes to hell/etc.&#8211;and 2 out of the 3 actually struck me as not so much a caricature but my real experience of mainstream Christianity.  i understand the liberal episcopalian might be trying to duck out from under some of these, but surely the response should not be &#8220;Clearly, you have no idea what the fuck you’re talking about&#8221; but rather, &#8220;Yes, those bastards piss me off just as much as they do you.</p>
<p>I do agree though that people should be curious about religion.  (I actually wish the Bible was taught more in public schools&#8211;partly because so much of our culture does come from it, and partly because I think if people actually read the old testament most of them would flock to become agnostics.)</p>
<p>So I take your point about the Sistine Chapel and Bach.</p>
<p>As for the sincerity of the work&#8230;<br />
Chomsky at one point was being challenged by Andrew Marr, who took objection to Chomsky&#8217;s view that the Media altered the truth.  Marr said to him something like, &#8220;How do you know I&#8217;m being I&#8217;m being insincere.  For all you know, I could thoroughly believe everything I&#8217;m telling you now.&#8221;<br />
Chomsky replied, &#8220;I&#8217;m sure you are sincere.  What I&#8217;m saying is that if you believed anything different from what you do, you wouldn&#8217;t be able to be in a high profile media position.&#8221;<br />
(I&#8217;m paraphrasing as this is from memory, but you get the idea.)<br />
I&#8217;m sure Bach did really believe in his music.  But the reason Western tradition is so filled with religious music is that no one was paying for much else.</p>
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		<title>Comment on AC8 I6 1909: The Works of Robert G. Ingersoll, Vols.I-XII by joel</title>
		<link>http://philipchristman.com/2012/02/08/ac8-i6-1909-the-works-of-robert-g-ingersoll-vols-i-xii/#comment-1200</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 07:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry, that second paragraph wasn&#039;t directed at you, it was just me venting in general.  I&#039;ll try and contain myself to responding to what you are actually saying in the future.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, that second paragraph wasn&#8217;t directed at you, it was just me venting in general.  I&#8217;ll try and contain myself to responding to what you are actually saying in the future.</p>
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		<title>Comment on AC8 I6 1909: The Works of Robert G. Ingersoll, Vols.I-XII by joel</title>
		<link>http://philipchristman.com/2012/02/08/ac8-i6-1909-the-works-of-robert-g-ingersoll-vols-i-xii/#comment-1199</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 07:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;–but I don’t think I’ve made that much of a secret, either. Have I?

No, you haven&#039;t, and your in my good books on that issue..  

I guess my main point is that I don&#039;t think a critic of the church should have to bend over backwards to address every variation.  In a one on one debate it may be possible to tailor your philosophical arguments to your individual opponent, but when writing a book it would just be impossible to form any sort of a coherent argument.  The dominant form of protestantism in Christianity believes the majority of the world is going to hell.  I think it is fair to attack Christianity on this point.  Same for the others. (Granted it&#039;s always dangerous defending a writer I&#039;ve not read as far as Ingersoll goes, but having read Dawkins and Hitchens, I support them on this one.)

Also, as I alluded to in the earlier comment, my subjective experience is that the church presents one face when they&#039;re in control, and another face when they&#039;re being challenged.  When I go back and talk to Church leaders now about the various things I resent about my upbringing, I find them backpedaling on all kinds of stuff.  That certainly wasn&#039;t their attitude when I was a young naive child in their classes.  
I don&#039;t hold this against you, of course, but it is something I think about whenever someone says about Hitchens or Dawkins, &quot;But that&#039;s not what my church says.&quot;--It is when the doors are closed and they know they don&#039;t have to defend themselves against outsiders.  They&#039;ll put on a moderate face when they&#039;re challenged on something, but just watch all the  crap they&#039;ll put into children&#039;s heads when no one&#039;s watching them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;–but I don’t think I’ve made that much of a secret, either. Have I?</p>
<p>No, you haven&#8217;t, and your in my good books on that issue..  </p>
<p>I guess my main point is that I don&#8217;t think a critic of the church should have to bend over backwards to address every variation.  In a one on one debate it may be possible to tailor your philosophical arguments to your individual opponent, but when writing a book it would just be impossible to form any sort of a coherent argument.  The dominant form of protestantism in Christianity believes the majority of the world is going to hell.  I think it is fair to attack Christianity on this point.  Same for the others. (Granted it&#8217;s always dangerous defending a writer I&#8217;ve not read as far as Ingersoll goes, but having read Dawkins and Hitchens, I support them on this one.)</p>
<p>Also, as I alluded to in the earlier comment, my subjective experience is that the church presents one face when they&#8217;re in control, and another face when they&#8217;re being challenged.  When I go back and talk to Church leaders now about the various things I resent about my upbringing, I find them backpedaling on all kinds of stuff.  That certainly wasn&#8217;t their attitude when I was a young naive child in their classes.<br />
I don&#8217;t hold this against you, of course, but it is something I think about whenever someone says about Hitchens or Dawkins, &#8220;But that&#8217;s not what my church says.&#8221;&#8211;It is when the doors are closed and they know they don&#8217;t have to defend themselves against outsiders.  They&#8217;ll put on a moderate face when they&#8217;re challenged on something, but just watch all the  crap they&#8217;ll put into children&#8217;s heads when no one&#8217;s watching them.</p>
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		<title>Comment on AC8 I6 1909: The Works of Robert G. Ingersoll, Vols.I-XII by Phil</title>
		<link>http://philipchristman.com/2012/02/08/ac8-i6-1909-the-works-of-robert-g-ingersoll-vols-i-xii/#comment-1195</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Phil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 13:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wasn&#039;t saying that ignorance of a tradition means you shouldn&#039;t consider yourself a nonbeliever in that tradition--just that you should avoid making sweeping claims about it. If someone who knows nothing about Buddhism made a claim like &quot;Buddhism is an inferior religion, because Buddhists tortured POWs on the Bataan death march&quot;--and I have heard versions of that claim--I&#039;m guessing you would be all over them like a cheap suit, and rightly so. That was my point.

My point in mentioning the Sistine Chapel was that it&#039;s a bad thing to tell people not to even be curious about a force that sponsors so much of a culture&#039;s history. If I were to make an ignorant comment about the people who built those awesome Easter Island heads, and then be critiqued for it by someone who actually knows something about that culture, I wouldn&#039;t brush them off with the tooth-fairy argument. Nor, if someone says (for example) &quot;Secular humanism tells us we&#039;re all monkeys and leads to nihilism,&quot; do I let them get away with that. Igrnorant caricatures=bad. That&#039;s all I&#039;m saying here. 

(Also, I don&#039;t know about Michelangelo, but many Bach fans seem to think that serious subjective belief, not just attraction to those big Lutheran paychecks, had a lot to do with the shape of Bach&#039;s music.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t saying that ignorance of a tradition means you shouldn&#8217;t consider yourself a nonbeliever in that tradition&#8211;just that you should avoid making sweeping claims about it. If someone who knows nothing about Buddhism made a claim like &#8220;Buddhism is an inferior religion, because Buddhists tortured POWs on the Bataan death march&#8221;&#8211;and I have heard versions of that claim&#8211;I&#8217;m guessing you would be all over them like a cheap suit, and rightly so. That was my point.</p>
<p>My point in mentioning the Sistine Chapel was that it&#8217;s a bad thing to tell people not to even be curious about a force that sponsors so much of a culture&#8217;s history. If I were to make an ignorant comment about the people who built those awesome Easter Island heads, and then be critiqued for it by someone who actually knows something about that culture, I wouldn&#8217;t brush them off with the tooth-fairy argument. Nor, if someone says (for example) &#8220;Secular humanism tells us we&#8217;re all monkeys and leads to nihilism,&#8221; do I let them get away with that. Igrnorant caricatures=bad. That&#8217;s all I&#8217;m saying here. </p>
<p>(Also, I don&#8217;t know about Michelangelo, but many Bach fans seem to think that serious subjective belief, not just attraction to those big Lutheran paychecks, had a lot to do with the shape of Bach&#8217;s music.)</p>
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